Isn't that a great video! Its sad that they claim they want "equal rights" but if Prop 8 loses we will lose rights. Kind of sounds like they are the ones being unfair. =)
To Tyler & Kathy, what rights would you be losing, exactly? Had Prop 8 not passed, nothing would have changed at ALL, as gay marriage was already legal. You wouldn't have lost your rights to anything. Gay marriage wouldn't have been required teaching in schools, it's not like your children would've been taught how to be gay. Christine, I'm so disappointed in you. I thought you would've understood all of that and made a smarter, fairer choice.
Ooooh, boy! What a topic! Well, to the last post, all I have to say is that when all is said and done, you would be better off standing for something that you know to be true, than kneeling in submission to whatever society decides is okay. Chris, I applaud your standard. I am grateful for people like you who stand for righteousness, even when it is not popular or even worse. Such hatred has come from the other side of this, while we remain calm, poised, and valiant.
Just to let people know, the above comment that attacks me and my friends is from my little sister, Trelayna. I decided to leave her comment up because she obviously felt so strongly about her side of this issue that she would risk her relationship with me. I've talked with her about her decision to post her comment on my blog and it saddens me that she would rather fight with me over this issue then just agree to disagree and respect each others view point. I love my sister, but I can't deny God, the Bible, or the leaders of my religion that I know to be true.
Chris, no worries. I'm not easily offended. I know that this is a touchy and emotional subject. I think the best people can do is to try and understand each other. On issues like this it is really important to get the facts, so you can make an educated decision. So, I'd like to address a couple of comments by Trelayna.
"What rights would you be losing?"
Freedom of speech. If gay marriage is allowed then it will be considered the "norm". It will be required acceptance. Therefore, anyone who disagrees with it could possible face law suits, and prison time. Just read about cases in Canada and England and Massachusetts. So, if someone says “I think being gay is immoral” they could be charged with a hate crime. I read recently of a preacher who was teaching this very topic and was charged with a hate crime, and is facing prison time.
"nothing would have changed"
Actually, quite a bit would have changed. First, it would be taught in schools. CA requires marriage to be taught in 96% of the schools. Not only that, before the election they brought a first grade class to a same-sex marriage, calling it a "teaching opportunity". Of course it would be taught in schools here, just as it is required in MA. In MA, they are not required to notify parents, and parents are not allowed to opt out of those classes. It will be taught here, and you will be required to accept it. Not only that, but the same groups who are saying it wouldnt be taught here are the exact same groups that sued in MA to have it taught in schools there.
Second, churches that taught against gay marriage would be considered discrimination and would have law suits, and possibly lose tax exempt status, or be forced to marry gay couples. Third, doctors and adoption agencies would be required to serve gay couples, regardless of their religious beliefs, otherwise facing law suits. A Muslim doctor refused to help a lesbian couple get pregnant, although he was kind about it and even referred them to a doctor that would they still sued him for discrimination. A Catholic adoption agency who refused to adopt out to gay couple had to close their doors after 100+ years of service, just because of their religious beliefs.
Fourth, with gay couples you are permanently removing either a father or a mother. Countless studies have shown that children are better adjusted and grow up to be healthier adults if they have a father and mother. It is a very risky social experiment to remove either of these important figures.
"Gay marriage is already legal"
In 2000 the people of CA voted to define marriage as a husband and wife. In May 2008 FOUR judges decided to overturn that ruling and allow gay marriage, going against the will of the people. Prop 8 simply returned the definition to traditional marriage. It only became temporarily legal because of dishonest judges who didn’t want to play by the rules.
In CA gay couples can have civil unions, giving them the same rights has straight couples. So, you have to ask yourself...If they have the same rights, why are they so desperate to have the same name? Personally, I think it is because they want total acceptance of their lifestyle choice. If they are able to win the term “marriage”, then they will feel that everyone will have to accept their choice.
Lastly, I just want to add. I believe we are all children of God. He loves each and every one of us. He wants us all to be happy and to return to him someday. God has ordained marriage as between a man and a woman. It is a sacred union, not only for the love of each other but for the purposes of having children and raising a family. This has been since the beginning of time, and it is a universal law that cannot be changed. We all have our free agency, and we can choose whatever path we want to follow. I have studied this issue out, I have prayed about it and read what our modern day Prophet has said on the issue. I know that marriage is sacred and we should do everything we can to protect that union. At the same time, we need to be respectful of those who feel differently. Hopefully, we will be able to find a peaceful middle ground.
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That's an awesome video... good post Chris!
Isn't that a great video! Its sad that they claim they want "equal rights" but if Prop 8 loses we will lose rights. Kind of sounds like they are the ones being unfair. =)
To Tyler & Kathy, what rights would you be losing, exactly? Had Prop 8 not passed, nothing would have changed at ALL, as gay marriage was already legal. You wouldn't have lost your rights to anything. Gay marriage wouldn't have been required teaching in schools, it's not like your children would've been taught how to be gay.
Christine, I'm so disappointed in you. I thought you would've understood all of that and made a smarter, fairer choice.
Ooooh, boy! What a topic! Well, to the last post, all I have to say is that when all is said and done, you would be better off standing for something that you know to be true, than kneeling in submission to whatever society decides is okay. Chris, I applaud your standard. I am grateful for people like you who stand for righteousness, even when it is not popular or even worse. Such hatred has come from the other side of this, while we remain calm, poised, and valiant.
Just to let people know, the above comment that attacks me and my friends is from my little sister, Trelayna. I decided to leave her comment up because she obviously felt so strongly about her side of this issue that she would risk her relationship with me. I've talked with her about her decision to post her comment on my blog and it saddens me that she would rather fight with me over this issue then just agree to disagree and respect each others view point. I love my sister, but I can't deny God, the Bible, or the leaders of my religion that I know to be true.
Chris, no worries. I'm not easily offended. I know that this is a touchy and emotional subject. I think the best people can do is to try and understand each other. On issues like this it is really important to get the facts, so you can make an educated decision. So, I'd like to address a couple of comments by Trelayna.
"What rights would you be losing?"
Freedom of speech. If gay marriage is allowed then it will be considered the "norm". It will be required acceptance. Therefore, anyone who disagrees with it could possible face law suits, and prison time. Just read about cases in Canada and England and Massachusetts. So, if someone says “I think being gay is immoral” they could be charged with a hate crime. I read recently of a preacher who was teaching this very topic and was charged with a hate crime, and is facing prison time.
"nothing would have changed"
Actually, quite a bit would have changed. First, it would be taught in schools. CA requires marriage to be taught in 96% of the schools. Not only that, before the election they brought a first grade class to a same-sex marriage, calling it a "teaching opportunity". Of course it would be taught in schools here, just as it is required in MA. In MA, they are not required to notify parents, and parents are not allowed to opt out of those classes. It will be taught here, and you will be required to accept it. Not only that, but the same groups who are saying it wouldnt be taught here are the exact same groups that sued in MA to have it taught in schools there.
Second, churches that taught against gay marriage would be considered discrimination and would have law suits, and possibly lose tax exempt status, or be forced to marry gay couples.
Third, doctors and adoption agencies would be required to serve gay couples, regardless of their religious beliefs, otherwise facing law suits. A Muslim doctor refused to help a lesbian couple get pregnant, although he was kind about it and even referred them to a doctor that would they still sued him for discrimination. A Catholic adoption agency who refused to adopt out to gay couple had to close their doors after 100+ years of service, just because of their religious beliefs.
Fourth, with gay couples you are permanently removing either a father or a mother. Countless studies have shown that children are better adjusted and grow up to be healthier adults if they have a father and mother. It is a very risky social experiment to remove either of these important figures.
"Gay marriage is already legal"
In 2000 the people of CA voted to define marriage as a husband and wife. In May 2008 FOUR judges decided to overturn that ruling and allow gay marriage, going against the will of the people. Prop 8 simply returned the definition to traditional marriage. It only became temporarily legal because of dishonest judges who didn’t want to play by the rules.
In CA gay couples can have civil unions, giving them the same rights has straight couples. So, you have to ask yourself...If they have the same rights, why are they so desperate to have the same name? Personally, I think it is because they want total acceptance of their lifestyle choice. If they are able to win the term “marriage”, then they will feel that everyone will have to accept their choice.
Lastly, I just want to add. I believe we are all children of God. He loves each and every one of us. He wants us all to be happy and to return to him someday. God has ordained marriage as between a man and a woman. It is a sacred union, not only for the love of each other but for the purposes of having children and raising a family. This has been since the beginning of time, and it is a universal law that cannot be changed. We all have our free agency, and we can choose whatever path we want to follow. I have studied this issue out, I have prayed about it and read what our modern day Prophet has said on the issue. I know that marriage is sacred and we should do everything we can to protect that union. At the same time, we need to be respectful of those who feel differently. Hopefully, we will be able to find a peaceful middle ground.
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